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Post by Marc on Jun 21, 2004 18:44:24 GMT -5
Hello one and all. I am Marc I run P.A.C.T (Parents And Children Together) from my website www.socialservicesabuse.com I created this site and the support / pressure group after having to deal first hand with the draconian and frankly dispicable care system. I have modified this post as well as others within David's forums due to UNDISCLOSABLE REASONS. David I have sent you a private mail, and apologise for having to modify these posts.
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Post by David on Jun 21, 2004 20:58:51 GMT -5
Hi Marc, Thanks for joining this discussion board and you message above. Like i have said on Ancient one's board if we all link together then we will hopefully build in numbers and in voice in this country and the government will have no choice but to take note and do something about the current child protection system in this country. You do newsletters from your website and if that can be left to you, one newsletter rather than different ones from each of our sites. If you forward them onto us then we can then send on to our contacts and hopefully things should start to take shape. David [glow=red,2,300]FAMILIESFORJUSTICE[/glow] /me
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Post by lillittle on Jun 22, 2004 10:20:31 GMT -5
hi all im new here and have just gone through an awful experiance that has left me angry i have just lost my children to social services after a mental health patient acused us of the most awful of crimes. my eldest son is 11 and he has no cantact with his real dad but i married someone and they have shoved this so far down my husbands face he feels useless why cant they just leave our families alone and fight for the kids that really do need their help before they die rather than interfere with those that dont need it
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Post by Marc on Jun 22, 2004 16:47:25 GMT -5
Here, Here. I am sorry to read of your agonising story lillittle. I agree with you totally, Social Services and the like SHOULD concentrate on those that ARE being abused, and do something to HELP them. It’s no good saying ‘ah well, we will check on the family every week’. This will not do, as they have to write and give a date and time of their visit, simply warning the abusers and giving them ample time to prepare. Innocent families are paying for the so called ‘care’ systems, ‘protection of children’. How can they possibly claim this when they leave abused children in the abusers care, that is why David, Ian and Myself are all fighting for review and reform, to stop this iron fist of Social Services, and to make them leave innocent families alone and to protect the abused children.
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Post by lillittle on Jun 22, 2004 17:59:25 GMT -5
thanks marc for your message i was one of the unlucky one they turned up on my doorstep unannounced with police in tow and they expected us to co operate from the outset I DONT THINK SO i was brought up in care so i know what a child goes through it has taken many years to understand y i am the way i am the care system failed me i will not allow it to fail other kids in a similar situation this is what they don't like people that stand upto them i have had this hassle for 27 yrs it is about time i started to fight back i will not give up on my children ever
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Post by Marc on Jun 22, 2004 18:15:24 GMT -5
I am sorry to read such a story as yours. I am sure that you have a better perspective on the care system than most, so would have done all you could to have prevented such an outrage. It is time we all stood and shouted as to prevent exactly what has happened to us victims from happening to others. My pressure groups ‘March For The Family’, on July 23rd is just one way of shouting, we will be shouting that day I can tell you. Although there are many other ways of being heard, petitions, word of mouth (The Best), and websites. Sooner or later the government will have to take notice. Children are not CHATTLE they are our dearest and most treasured people. I am sorry to read to have been fighting SS for 27 years; they will never change, until the pressure groups bring about changes to legislation to force them to change. I sincerely hope that one day you find solace and happiness, and that these scum in SS leave you alone to enjoy your family life.
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Post by David on Jun 22, 2004 20:55:52 GMT -5
Hi all, Just read your messages and i fully agree Marc we do need to start shouting out about this abuse that iS forced onto families throughout the UK BY SOCIAL SERVICE. Lena you also have more experience than ourselves concerning the care system and i can't even imagine what you must have went through. I'm glad that you are going to fight them to the end and wish you all the luck in the world. We all feel the same, SS have made a big mistake in removing our children and destroying our families as we will not sit back and accept it. Time as come to stand up for our families,children and for what we believe in and that being justice and thats what we want as with justice being done we will all be re-united with our loved ones. I have spent all day today writing out my story of my experience with SS and you know it just flowed dates times and things that have happened within the last three years as if it were yesterday. My story is online at my new website. David [glow=red,2,300]FAMILIESFORJUSTICE[/glow]
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Post by Marc on Jun 23, 2004 16:40:40 GMT -5
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Post by David on Jun 23, 2004 18:36:47 GMT -5
Hi Marc, Sorry to hear about your new hassle's and this is exactly the same as i went through. It is so wrong that they can split up families this way. What are you going to do? Neither of you have done anything wrong so i don't see why you have to do what they want. I wish you both all the best but don't give up that easy for them. David[glow=red,2,300]FAMILIESFORJUSTICE[/glow]
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Post by Marc on Jun 23, 2004 18:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by David on Jun 23, 2004 23:16:04 GMT -5
Hi Marc, Don't let them rush you, take your time over your decisions, has this decision you make is one that can't be made easy when there so many feelings and love involved. Also don't have 100% trust because what they say now could change after you have made your decision. Your strengh against them lies with both of you and is strong against them. It could be just one of their plans to split you up then make out that the family was unstable and to SS this justify's their reasons David[glow=red,2,300]FAMILIESFORJUSTICE[/glow]
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Post by lillittle on Jun 24, 2004 6:46:51 GMT -5
hi marc sorry to hear of your problem, they tried this with me and my hubby i told them that i would not seperate, it turned out that this was only a test to see if i would shift. they made all these promises that i would get the children back i would be allowed to see them in the foster home and god knows what else but it was all a lie, not only that but it is a breach of your human right to have to seperate because someone tells you too you have a right to have a relationship with whoever you like be very carefuland don't trust them it could all be a ploy. if it is they will say that your partner is unable to look after the children on her own and they would have to remain involved.
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Post by David on Jun 24, 2004 7:39:10 GMT -5
Hi All, I fully back what Lena as said, this could just be a ploy by SS. IF they succeed with what they want you to do then believe it will not end there. Like Lena have said they tried the same with her, and respect to Lena for not letting them destroy her relationship like they have destroyed her family. This is exactly what they done in my case but my ex-was only 21 and very vulnerable to SS and they said the same to her if she left me then she would stand a chance of getting her kids back. She left on a number of occasions and now for good but here i am still fighting for my son as they really had no intention of giving them kids back to her. David[glow=red,2,300]FAMILIESFORJUSTICE[/glow]
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Post by David on Jun 26, 2004 19:38:57 GMT -5
I wish her all the best and hope everything works out and you all end up back together very soon. Remember if you do meet up while this assessment is going on then be careful don't let the SS find out. What they don't know about they can't moan about. David[glow=red,2,300]FAMILIESFORJUSTICE[/glow]
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Post by David on Jun 27, 2004 14:05:22 GMT -5
Glad to hear you have made your decision. I do agree as it being whats best for the child and i wish Sharon all the best with her assessment. I hope that after this assessment that you can all re-unite and all live a happy family life together David[glow=red,2,300]FAMILIESFORJUSTICE[/glow]
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